袋鼠直播德甲直播：为什么多特蒙德在克洛普领导下的崩溃会让利物浦球迷担心
Almost a decade ago, Jurgen Klopp's Borussia Dortmund went from German champions and one of Europe's most-feared sides to barely being able to win a match as the German's seven-year spell at the club came to a shuddering halt - so could things be repeating themselves now at Liverpool?
Heading into the 2014-15 season, Dortmund were once again expected to be the main challengers to Pep Guardiola's Bayern Munich. The two clubs, like Liverpool and Man City's recent Premier League's battles, had enjoyed a fierce rivalry ever since Klopp had taken over at Signal Iduna Park in 2008, with the Bavarians beating Klopp's team to the Bundesliga in 2013-14.
However, with Klopp having only signed a new contract at Dortmund in October 2013 - ring any bells anyone? - hopes were high at the Westfalenstadion they could repeat their back-to-back title wins under him in 2011 and 2012.
不过，如果没有他们最近成功背后的关键建筑师罗伯特·莱万多夫斯基（Robert Lewandowski），俱乐部将不得不努力从拜仁手中夺回德甲冠军，后者已同意在那年夏天搬到安联球场。
As with Sadio Mane's departure from Liverpool to Munich in June this year, Klopp had tried but failed to persuade his influential forward to stay, leaving a huge hole to fill in attack the following season.
Similar to when Liverpool beat City to claim the Community Shield in July, there were no obvious signs of the struggles to follow as Dortmund confidently dispatched Bayern 2-0 to win the German Supercup in August 2014.
毕竟，这仍然是同一支球队，在2013年欧洲冠军联赛决赛中，他们只在最后一分钟输给了拜仁的一粒进球，尽管现在回过头来看，这是一支在过去六年里一直在克洛普手下表现平平的老队。
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None of that, however, explained how the team suddenly went from being Bayern's closest challengers just a few months earlier to one that had just 11 points to their name after 12 games of the campaign, including a dreadful run of five straight defeats that sent them spiralling into the drop zone in November.
It was Dortmund's worst start to a Bundesliga season and one that left their coach bewildered and angry: "It's a brutal, s***** situation, crazy," he said at the time.
和本赛季在安菲尔德一样，俱乐部在欧洲的表现奇怪地没有受到主场艰难的影响，因为他们在冠军联赛小组中排名第一，每一场胜利之后都立即声称已经扭转了局面。
But frustratingly, it had not as Klopp's trusted lieutenant, Peter Krawietz, recalls in Rafa Honigstein's book, 'Klopp: Bring the Noise': "In the Champions League, we did OK, we qualified for the knock-out rounds, but that only made us wonder if we were lacking the right attitude in the league. You're in a spiral, going round in circles, going down. And we didn't manage to get out of it."
Dortmund's nosedive in results was certainly not helped by Ciro Immobile's struggles in attack, as the man brought in to replace Lewandowski found it hard to adapt to life in the Ruhr Valley and for the first time under Klopp, their transfer business was questioned.
However, as with Liverpool this season, the problems ran far deeper than just the departure of one key player.
Dortmund were not only suffering from injuries to several key players - Klopp called it "the worst injury crisis in the history of football" - which meant they were unable to rotate as often as the manager wanted, but the packed schedule also led to less time on the training pitch in which to iron out their mounting problems in what became a vicious cycle.
Klopp bristled at suggestions from the press that the gegenpressing style he had implemented so effectively at Westphalia had now led to burnout and injuries among his players, snapping back with: "a wretched question, Bayern have injuries too, but they can compensate them better," when a journalist suggested as much ahead of facing Munich.
But it was not just a lengthening injury list that was the problem, Dortmund had become to find it increasingly hard to break down teams who came to Signal Iduna Park with a low block and looking to play on the break.
Klopp's side would routinely dominate games, creating numerous openings, only to squander them and then lose to a goal scored on the counterattack.
“我们一直以完全相同的方式输掉比赛，”Krawietz回忆道。“我们极易受到反击。我们在比赛中拥有大量控球，创造了很好的机会，但由于几次反击，我们以1-0或2-0输掉了比赛。”
正如本赛季在利物浦所发生的那样，这位德国人很快就打消了联盟其他人对他的建议，同样告诉一位当地记者：“我不想打架，所以我甚至会回答那些愚蠢的问题。如果你说我们已经被‘发现’了，那对过去几年反对派教练的工作有什么影响？他们是不是看不到我们的比赛？”
Either way, though, the pressure was clearly telling on Klopp, who as well as scolding journalists in press conferences, was also berating referees and their assistants, leading to numerous red cards and hefty fines as we saw in Liverpool's recent win over Man City at Anfield.
克洛普在那不勒斯第四名官员的一次特别火山爆发导致他被解雇后表示：“我有时在边线上认不出自己。”。
Incredibly, at the midway point of the season, the team were still languishing in the relegation zone, with only goal difference keeping them off the bottom of the table.
However, the midseason winter break came at exactly the right time for Klopp and his beleaguered players, just as he will hope also happens with Liverpool when the campaign pauses for the World Cup later this month.
"We had at last a chance to regenerate and practice a few things without the pressure of competitive football," says Krawietz. "It was clear that with a bit of rest for the legs and heads, we'd be able to get it right, that this team could function again."
They did as Dortmund slowly managed to pull themselves up the table when the campaign resumed after a six-week hiatus, helped by a four-game winning run in February 2015.
In fact, for a while there was even belief Dortmund could scramble into the Champions League places, only for them to finish seventh and with it qualification for the Europa League third qualifying round.
But it was a demoralising 3-0 home loss to Juventus in the Champions last 16 in March that ultimately convinced Klopp his time was up at the club, the shock announcement coming the following month with Dortmund lying an incredible 37 points behind the leaders Bayern.
所有这一切都发生在克洛普同意延长两年合同直到2018年的18个月之后，距离参加欧洲顶级俱乐部比赛的决赛还有不到两年的时间，这对利物浦球迷来说是一个警告，足球会很快变得糟糕。
克洛普本人可能会反驳这样的说法：利物浦现在也发生了同样的事情，上个月，他在谈到自己退出多特蒙德时说道：“七年来，球员们一直被其他俱乐部收买。这是一件非常艰难的工作，不断后退两步。这真的很激烈，非常令人疲惫，这就是我说我们必须在这里停止比赛的原因，但我没有精力问题，一点也没有。”。
“我在精力上完全没有问题，这里的情况完全不同。我可以理解，我在七年后离开了（以前），现在我们处境艰难，人们也持这种看法。但是，如果你仔细考虑一下，你就会发现情况完全不同了。”
However, if you had told Dortmund supporters in May 2012 that the man who had just guided them to a league and cup double - their second straight Bundesliga title - would had left the club within three years, you would have been laughed out of town.
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Heading into the 2014-15 season, Dortmund were once again expected to be the main challengers to Pep Guardiola's Bayern Munich. The two clubs, like Liverpool and Man City's recent Premier League's battles, had enjoyed a fierce rivalry ever since Klopp had taken over at Signal Iduna Park in 2008, with the Bavarians beating Klopp's team to the Bundesliga in 2013-14.
However, with Klopp having only signed a new contract at Dortmund in October 2013 - ring any bells anyone? - hopes were high at the Westfalenstadion they could repeat their back-to-back title wins under him in 2011 and 2012.
不过，如果没有他们最近成功背后的关键建筑师罗伯特·莱万多夫斯基（Robert Lewandowski），俱乐部将不得不努力从拜仁手中夺回德甲冠军，后者已同意在那年夏天搬到安联球场。
As with Sadio Mane's departure from Liverpool to Munich in June this year, Klopp had tried but failed to persuade his influential forward to stay, leaving a huge hole to fill in attack the following season.
Similar to when Liverpool beat City to claim the Community Shield in July, there were no obvious signs of the struggles to follow as Dortmund confidently dispatched Bayern 2-0 to win the German Supercup in August 2014.
毕竟，这仍然是同一支球队，在2013年欧洲冠军联赛决赛中，他们只在最后一分钟输给了拜仁的一粒进球，尽管现在回过头来看，这是一支在过去六年里一直在克洛普手下表现平平的老队。
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None of that, however, explained how the team suddenly went from being Bayern's closest challengers just a few months earlier to one that had just 11 points to their name after 12 games of the campaign, including a dreadful run of five straight defeats that sent them spiralling into the drop zone in November.
It was Dortmund's worst start to a Bundesliga season and one that left their coach bewildered and angry: "It's a brutal, s***** situation, crazy," he said at the time.
和本赛季在安菲尔德一样，俱乐部在欧洲的表现奇怪地没有受到主场艰难的影响，因为他们在冠军联赛小组中排名第一，每一场胜利之后都立即声称已经扭转了局面。
But frustratingly, it had not as Klopp's trusted lieutenant, Peter Krawietz, recalls in Rafa Honigstein's book, 'Klopp: Bring the Noise': "In the Champions League, we did OK, we qualified for the knock-out rounds, but that only made us wonder if we were lacking the right attitude in the league. You're in a spiral, going round in circles, going down. And we didn't manage to get out of it."
Dortmund's nosedive in results was certainly not helped by Ciro Immobile's struggles in attack, as the man brought in to replace Lewandowski found it hard to adapt to life in the Ruhr Valley and for the first time under Klopp, their transfer business was questioned.
However, as with Liverpool this season, the problems ran far deeper than just the departure of one key player.
Dortmund were not only suffering from injuries to several key players - Klopp called it "the worst injury crisis in the history of football" - which meant they were unable to rotate as often as the manager wanted, but the packed schedule also led to less time on the training pitch in which to iron out their mounting problems in what became a vicious cycle.
Klopp bristled at suggestions from the press that the gegenpressing style he had implemented so effectively at Westphalia had now led to burnout and injuries among his players, snapping back with: "a wretched question, Bayern have injuries too, but they can compensate them better," when a journalist suggested as much ahead of facing Munich.
But it was not just a lengthening injury list that was the problem, Dortmund had become to find it increasingly hard to break down teams who came to Signal Iduna Park with a low block and looking to play on the break.
Klopp's side would routinely dominate games, creating numerous openings, only to squander them and then lose to a goal scored on the counterattack.
“我们一直以完全相同的方式输掉比赛，”Krawietz回忆道。“我们极易受到反击。我们在比赛中拥有大量控球，创造了很好的机会，但由于几次反击，我们以1-0或2-0输掉了比赛。”
正如本赛季在利物浦所发生的那样，这位德国人很快就打消了联盟其他人对他的建议，同样告诉一位当地记者：“我不想打架，所以我甚至会回答那些愚蠢的问题。如果你说我们已经被‘发现’了，那对过去几年反对派教练的工作有什么影响？他们是不是看不到我们的比赛？”
Either way, though, the pressure was clearly telling on Klopp, who as well as scolding journalists in press conferences, was also berating referees and their assistants, leading to numerous red cards and hefty fines as we saw in Liverpool's recent win over Man City at Anfield.
克洛普在那不勒斯第四名官员的一次特别火山爆发导致他被解雇后表示：“我有时在边线上认不出自己。”。
Incredibly, at the midway point of the season, the team were still languishing in the relegation zone, with only goal difference keeping them off the bottom of the table.
However, the midseason winter break came at exactly the right time for Klopp and his beleaguered players, just as he will hope also happens with Liverpool when the campaign pauses for the World Cup later this month.
"We had at last a chance to regenerate and practice a few things without the pressure of competitive football," says Krawietz. "It was clear that with a bit of rest for the legs and heads, we'd be able to get it right, that this team could function again."
They did as Dortmund slowly managed to pull themselves up the table when the campaign resumed after a six-week hiatus, helped by a four-game winning run in February 2015.
In fact, for a while there was even belief Dortmund could scramble into the Champions League places, only for them to finish seventh and with it qualification for the Europa League third qualifying round.
But it was a demoralising 3-0 home loss to Juventus in the Champions last 16 in March that ultimately convinced Klopp his time was up at the club, the shock announcement coming the following month with Dortmund lying an incredible 37 points behind the leaders Bayern.
所有这一切都发生在克洛普同意延长两年合同直到2018年的18个月之后，距离参加欧洲顶级俱乐部比赛的决赛还有不到两年的时间，这对利物浦球迷来说是一个警告，足球会很快变得糟糕。
克洛普本人可能会反驳这样的说法：利物浦现在也发生了同样的事情，上个月，他在谈到自己退出多特蒙德时说道：“七年来，球员们一直被其他俱乐部收买。这是一件非常艰难的工作，不断后退两步。这真的很激烈，非常令人疲惫，这就是我说我们必须在这里停止比赛的原因，但我没有精力问题，一点也没有。”。
“我在精力上完全没有问题，这里的情况完全不同。我可以理解，我在七年后离开了（以前），现在我们处境艰难，人们也持这种看法。但是，如果你仔细考虑一下，你就会发现情况完全不同了。”
However, if you had told Dortmund supporters in May 2012 that the man who had just guided them to a league and cup double - their second straight Bundesliga title - would had left the club within three years, you would have been laughed out of town.
周日下午3点30分，观看托特纳姆热刺vs利物浦的天空体育超级联赛直播；下午4:30开球
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